New Jersey's former Attorney General John Farmer Jr. said if there were actual dancing the streets of New Jersey in celebration of the Twin Towers terrorist attacks, he would mobilized the State Police and National Guard to avoid riots. It never happened, he said. But some Donald Trump supporters aren't buying it.
Were there thousands of people dancing in the streets and the rooftops of Jersey City as the Twin Towers collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001?
If you still had any doubt after the fact checkers and new organizations that discredited Donald Trump’s insistence that he saw these scenes on TV, New Jersey’s attorney general on that horrific day offered his recollections of what he saw. After responding to rumors of celebrations taking place in Jersey City and Paterson, John Farmer Jr. made it clear these were false reports. “Never happened,” he said.
Well, wait a minute, say some Trump supporters. Numbers aren’t everything.
Here’s the best nine comments in defense of Trump’s claims from the 1,600 posted on Farmer’s piece. Some posts have been edited for clarity. If you think you have even better comments to defend the Republican presidential frontrunner, post it below.
joet says Farmer can’t be trusted because he wasn’t, ehem, there.
Mr. Farmer – your article was quite clear in that you relied solely upon Intelligence Reports rather than actually witnessing these sick individuals who were in fact celebrating the attacks on NYC that day. Next time think before you write an article such as this.
cjred685 agrees: Wasn’t there, can’t be trusted.
As for him being there I question that – He was the NJ attorney general and NOT in Jersey City when the towers fell. He was in Trenton. The fact is everyone is saying it never happened BUT IT DID – THERE WERE MUSLIMS CELEBRATING ON 9/11. Did Trump embellish the amount of people celebrating yes – but then again EVERY politician does.
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For InterstellarAxeman it’s not enough to dismiss Farmer’s credentials, he questions Farmer’s own memory, then accuses him of covering up any of the celebrations, which may or many not have occurred in Jersey City — but certainly happened somewhere:
I guess nothing any mere layman on the street personally witnessed would qualify as substantiating Trumps exaggerated claim,…but surely more fact than claim,…and even less exaggeration.
Embellishing is every mans brush to dabble a few blotches of detail into a recollection with Mr. Farmer. Just like the fact that you’re doing it now proves.
The equal and opposite effect can be said for leaving details OUT sir.
Maybe its the magnitude of a mans memory that amplifies the volume of its colorful details sir,…where the borderline of emotion and desire to impart a sense caring about something so difficult to recall, yet they are willing to step up to the need of doing something about a crisis allowed to flourish where others,Mr Farmer,…have MISERABLY FAILED.
Others besides Trump saw with their own eyes,..mine included, that very type of celebratory behavior in areas beyond Jersey City.
Totals of how many statewide may never be known,..but thousands when one considers everywhere it went on would be a low number as to the real amount.
When something happens under your nose,.and you’re unaware any of it happened,..not only are you wrong, you’re in denial and in your former capacity Mr. Farmer, are likely downplaying it all with a thin veil of guilty conscience.
StraightR is willing to forgive Trump for fudging the numbers in America because it’s probably true that “thousands and thousands” celebrated in other countries.
Trump is correct except he exaggerated the numbers. The Wash Post has the story 9/12, and many thousands of Muslims celebrated world wide that evening as I remember. That Dems can’t take this is obvious and their political point Trump is a racist is null. But they still try. These past few days has only helped him.
JJZ was the only one — the only commenter among hundreds and hundreds — who posted links to support Trump’s claim.
Not sure if this fact checker would share info, but there are quite a few people on this page that saw things too–some being huge Trump haters http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/nov/23/mailbag-some-readers-say-theyre-trump-witnessing-9/ Many on this site as well that you could contact via FB. Trump haters here as well that said they saw it. http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/11/23/live-jersey-trump-right-muslims-celebrate-911-nj-saw-277082
For Mr Knickerbocker, the number is irrelevant because everyone seems to be missing the bigger picture: America’s “true enemies.”
Whether it was a thousand, a hundred, or ten, the fact is it was reported by the mainstream media. But now everyone is coming out of the woodwork (everyone who is a Democrat and a member of the Republican Establishment) to try and prove a negative.
It’s curious, however, that no one is talking about a similar and, perhaps, bigger demonstration (or block party, or get-together) that did happen in Paterson at the same time.
Those who are making this an issue are trying to discount that there are TRUE enemies of America right in our midst, and the next attack will not be so easily shrugged off as “lone wolves” or “copy cats,” as the call goes out for more body bags.
And NJ.com Opinion Facebook Kevin Reed commenter offers more proof:
It wasn’t “thousands and thousands” but maybe dozens. It happened. Ask people who lived in JC at that time. First responders, teachers saw it.
mike91163pt2 took a stand to defend Trump. He too saw thousands, er, maybe 10 people cheering on TV on Sept. 11, 2001.
I was standing on the roof of my employer’s building in Rahway that morning, and saw BOTH buildings fall with my own eyes, not on a TV screen…
And that evening, I saw the footage of Muslims in Hudson County cheering that morning…again, 10 or 10,000, it’s irrelevant…it happened.
And for Frank in North Bergen, proof is that thousands cheered in Jersey City is the fact that no one is willing to come forward because it would be too dangerous for them to come forward. Just believe:
And I say I have a few witnesses to have been seen cheering in Hudson County to the attacks on our landmarks. Am I willing to put them in front of cameras to prove to the naysayers?….nooooo! I believe it and these witnesses believe it…many other US citizens believe it as well….that is good enough for me. These terrorists are professional and know what they are doing. They just will not attack when the country is at high alert. Even though they could be calculating suicide bombers (which are difficult to stop), they will wait for the right time. Be vigilant, be not afraid, go on with your lives. They are here and there. We just do not know where and how many.
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